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I do not think that the nickname that you want to give me is appropriate,​ because its not true, but you can certainly change your nickname to 'Triggerhapp​y Hillbilly'.

Sorry again for the long message.  Hope you have a good weekend.

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Another fact is that I'm not an American hater, actually I have many friends from the US even on this site and I have even lived several years in the US.  A lot of Americans would agree with me on many of the facts that I have told you, who are better known as Democrats.
   If you or your country doesn't care about Pakistani politics, what the bloody hell U.S. Deputy Secretary of State John Negroponte and U.S. Assistant Secretary of State Richard Boucher doing in Pakistan about a month after the elections?  Not only that they came here, they stayed here for over 10 days but also met nearly all the top political leadership of the ruling parties and also the opposition.  Here is a link just for your information that they were here: http://www.r​euters.com/a​rticle/lates​tCrisis/idUS​ISL183099
I think an ignorant person like you who doesn't know anything about world affairs or even his own country should be making statements about subjects that he doesn't have any knowledge of.

   I don't hate America, neither do I hate Americans, but on the other hand I think some very nice people live there and I have been in touch with many of them for over 10 years.  I only hate people like you who think that they know it all but actually don't know crap.  My initial agenda was to talk about American politics and the present situation there, but you changed the subject and chose to bash my country and tried to downgrade my government because of which I had to point out some shortcomings​ of your own government, which you were not able to handle very well, and started to call me an American Hater and things like that.   If you hold the right to criticize others then you should also have the guts to handle criticism.  You may choose not to reply me as I would not want to put an old man through some ideas that he can't handle and be a cause of him having a heart attack which may even be fatal at this age.  I do not think that the nickname that you want to give me is approp

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   Well since I'm so out of touch with reality and you seem to know everything about the Iraq, then can you please refer to the sites/articl​es/info which say where the Iraqi oil money is going?  It certainly doesn't seem to be going into the Iraqi economy as the people there are in a pitiful state, and they have to wait hours/someti​mes days outside of gas stations to buy fuel for their cars.  Here is a link to an article on Washington Post which tells where some Iraqi oil money went:
http://www.w​ashingtonpos​t.com/ac2/wp​-dyn/A37822-​2004Aug3?lan​guage=printe​r
Here is another article which is about $9 Billion of Iraqi oil money which went missing without a trace:
http://www.c​ommondreams.​org/views05/​0225-26.htm
 
   I just wanted to get an opinion out of you by saying what you probably wanted to hear about killing the Taliban.  Killing people never solved any problems, but would create even bigger problems if you do that.  Times have changed and this is a completely different world than it was 50 years ago or even 20 years ago.  This is the age of information and technology where one man was the capability of killing 10, 100, 1000 or maybe even a million or so people single handedly if he obtains the technology, so it would be better to find ways to co-exists instead of trying to kill people.

   I don't think in this kind of forum it matters who contact who first.  I did sent you that first message but you chose to reply me and continue this conversation​.  You may choose not to reply to this or any of my messages.  All your statements are based on speculation and opinion instead of ground facts.  I could backup each and every word I said with proof such as links and news articles, but you don't seem to have much to show for any of your statements or your arguments. 

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His name was Ahmed Chalabi, who had been living in the US for over 20 years and had not been in Iraq for at least 15 years before the invasion, who didn't have much knowledge of the present Iraq, but he sang the song that your government liked, so they went with him. Here is a link to an article on this topic from USA Today which tells about your government's​ *****-up:  http://www.u​satoday.com/​news/opinion​/editorials/​2004-05-23-c​halabi-edit_​x.htm

   All your statements seem to be based to opinion, and not on facts.

   I agree with you 100% that the American public was against the Vietnam war, and they were not being able to digest the huge casualties there.  If actual US casualties are declared of Iraq and Afghanistan,​ then they would probably have the same opinion as they did during the Vietnam war.  All my opinions and statements are based on actual facts that I could back them up from news links but I think you have a lack of understandin​g on the events that are going on in the world and have convinced yourself into believing that you know everything.

    Well I don't think the US is helping anyone by trading with China but themselves, I don't see any other country from where they could buy cheap goods from, they are actually helping themselves, and hurting your economy in the process.

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Hi Jim,

    I don't think that you know enough about Pakistan to be jumping to conclusions that "If we don't do anything about the Taliban, they will take over Pakistan."​  That is an absolutely baseless remark and untrue opinion of yours.  The National Assembly consists of about 350 members, and the religious party is lucky when they manage to get 10 seats out of that, there have been several occasions when even the heads of the religious party were unable to get any seats in the Assembly or the Senate.  What we are doing to the Taliban is for US, not for ourselves, and the numbers in the Senate and National Assembly is a reflection of the Taliban strength in Pakistan.  The Taliban have existed for over 20 years now, why is it that they were not attacking Pakistanis before that?  Because they never had a problem till now when they are being hurt by our army on the US instructions​/desires.

    I was actually not seeking any particular answer why US invaded Iraq.  Your answer was just as vague as your President's when he was asked the same question, so I would not blame you for not being able to answer this question.  Another fact that you're not too clear is that the IAEA had conducted a thorough investigatio​n and had declared that there were no WMD in Iraq, and you still attacked.  You could go to the link I sent you which has a copy of the IAEA report presented to the US Senate committee in 2003.   Even your own FED Chairman at that time Alan Greenspan said that the Iraq war was all about oil, and this unnecessary and baseless war was the reason why your Secretary of State at that time Collin Powell quit because he did not agree with going to war in Iraq. So at least you do agree that your intelligence​ regarding Iraq was in error. Do you know who was the person that provided you with the intelligence​ regarding Iraq?  His name was Ahmed Chalabi, who had been living in the US for over 20 years and had not been in Iraq for at least 15 years before the

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which would have costed much less than the war and would have been a good way to keep the tiger in a cage.  But your people in Washington did not see that coming and were only interested in their six figure income paid by your taxpayer's money.

    I think the US, its economy, and its people would be better off if your country starts minding its own business and stops interfering in the affairs of other nations. I don't think Americans live in glass houses, I don't think they even live in the real world called "Earth"​, they live on some far away planet where people trust mythology and folklore more than facts and figures.

   Your answers may be enough to satisfy yourself, but not enough to satisfy me and a few other people that may be reading this post,  because your observations​ are not based on any facts.  I pasted a copy of the IAEA report submitted to the US senate committee, and also a link which consisted of several quotes of people, as well as other information on the Iraq war, and you did not have much to tell except your personal opinion,  so if you have any solid facts and figures, then you can prove that what you say is correct.

*Sorry for the long post*

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I have spoken to people from there, that's how I know, maybe you should use some better and broader media for your information than just Fox News or whatever source of information that you use.

    So you say that Iraq is getting money from the sale of its oil?  So why are you controlling the sale of their oil and why are you using the funds from the oil proceeds to fund your war?  Iraq pumps out around 3 Million barrels of oil per day, and at the $120/barrel level that the oil is at this time, the total proceeds should be about $360 million or so each day, or around $11 billion/mont​h.  I wonder where all this money is going other than the pockets of your corrupt politicians and their cronies, because the people of Iraq are in a pitiful state and over 3 million Iraqis have fled their country.  My comments and accusations have enough merit unless you can prove that the money from the sale of oil is going back into the Iraqi economy, which could not be seen by anyone else except you and maybe also your corrupt government.

    For your information,​ the Taliban were not religious extremists when they were created by the US, at that time they were only freedom fighters, but after the American objective was met, your country abandoned them like they always do after it gets what it wants, and they were left with a country in ruins with absolutely no economy, war lords running wild everywhere, and nowhere to turn to.  The Taliban then used the religion to gain control of the country as they were left with no other choice.  The US should have taken steps at the end of the war and should have devised a plan to keep the country under control and should have prevented any foreign or Arab influence.  There were 2 ways they could have done that, either kill all the Taliban back then, which was nearly impossible, and the other was to put them on your payroll and answerable to you, which would have costed much less than the war and would have been a good way to

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Communism is a non-workable​ system anyway, and countries are gradually realizing that and shifting into the market economy system, without much help from the US.

    Man!  I was expecting a better answer than what you gave on ' Why the US attacked Iraq.' This is the most ignorant, insensitive and out of context thing that you can say.  You don't go killing people based on 'beliefs' or 'feelings', you make decisions based on facts and figures, and if you read the report that I pasted earlier, and the other links, you can see that Iraq was clean and had no WMDs, the Americans had the bad intentions of stealing their oil from the very first day, which even some important people endorsed if you checkout the link.  This was even stated by your Chairman Fed, Alan Greenspan at that time.

   The best example you can give is that you kill a man today, and you will decide in the next 20 years why you killed him?  And on top of that you talk about values, human rights all the good words you can find in the dictionary that you don't apply to yourself.  The US killed more people and caused more people to die in the last 5 years of occupation than Saddam Hussein did in his over 25 years of rule, and you still dare talk about values and what is right?  Just look at what you guys have done there, you have destroyed all the infrastructu​re there, there is no electricity in the whole country for 22 hours everyday, except in the so called "Green Zone"  where the US troops have a presence in Baghdad.  There is no fuel even for cars and generators, and people have to wait for anywhere between 10 hours to even 2 or 3 days in long cues outside of gas stations for petrol and diesel, people have no jobs, and there is not security of life and property there.  Then you go and talk about values?  I have spoken to people from there, that's how I know, maybe you should use some better and broader media for your information than just Fox News or whatever source of information tha

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I think we should keep this conversation​ based on facts and figures rather than mythology/fo​lklore and assumptions.​  Even with the long mythological​ answer that you gave me, you still were unable to answer that "Why did the US attack Iraq if the IAEA Chairman Hans Blix and Director General ElBaradei both declared that there no biological, chemical or WMD in Iraq?"  You can click on this link which has a copy of the report of the inspectors presented to your Senate Committee: http://www.m​axwell.af.mi​l/au/awc/awc​gate/crs/rl3​1671.pdf. Just read the report an see for yourself, you don't have to take my word for it.  Here is a link to what a few important people of the world had to say about the Iraq invasion, it includes quotes and some other info:  www.mindprod​.com/politic​s/iraqintrod​uction.html#​INTRODUCTION​.  Check this site which states the lies that your President told about Iraq: http://www.t​vnewslies.or​g/html/iraq_​lies.html

    Do you really think that the US changed anything in the Vietnam war?  From what I see, based on facts and figures the US ran with their tails between their legs after getting 60,000 or so of their troops killed and realizing that they can't win.   I don't think that the US had enough resources during the Vietnam war, nor do they even have now to go into a direct conflict with China.  Actually you people are hypocrites, on one hand you say that communism is evil and China should be punished but on the other hand you have the largest trading relations with China because of which your trade deficit is increasing every year against China, and the foreign trade reserves of China are growing every year because of their trade relations with the US.  US till this day day has not been able to convert its small Communist neighboring country like Cuba into a market economy, which could easily have been done without a war, so I would not agree 100% with you on this point.  Communism is a non-workable​ system anyway, and countries are gradu

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    Don't worry about the multiple posts, I don't think this forum is meant for long messages that we are posting on each other's wall, but for shorter ones.  Even I would need a few postings to say what I want to tell.

   Taliban fighters are being captured and killed everyday by the Pakistan army inside of Pakistan and on the Afghan border, just to please the US and it never seems to be any good or enough for you guys.  Because of this support, the people of Pakistan are paying a heavy price with an economy going down the drain, and scores of innocent people getting killed.  Only a few days ago 67 people died in a Cantonment area close to the Capital and Taliban claimed responsibili​ty.  The Taliban are getting hurt my the action of the armed forces that's the reason they are going for an 'all out' war and trying everything to fulfil their objective.  On the other hand, what is Pakistan gaining from supporting the US troops in Afghanistan?​ Nothing!  But Americans have always been thankless and it would never seem enough of what we do for you.  Even if we were to kill all the 165 million people living here, that may still not be enough for you guys, and you would only be like nothing matters.