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Andrey_R
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Posted: Sat Oct 10, 2009 11:23 pm |
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So, Switzerland and Norway( in my opinion, best for living countries in the world, espescially Switzerland) are not member of EU. Joined to Eu, there were a lot of strikes in Germany,because a lot of people thought, that it's bad for their economy. Specialists from comparing not very developed countries seek to work in most developed,and now specialists from Portugal, Poland,Estland seek to work in Germany, UK, and so on. Other example: buisnessman fromбащк учфьздубАкфтсу can make his buisness in Latvia and pay taxes for France. I don't say, that it's not honest. I want to say, that it's bad for some EU countries themself.
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Andrey_R
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Posted: Mon Oct 12, 2009 4:48 pm |
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Are you sure that it's not leads to parasitism of one ecomonics to another?
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billw
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Posted: Thu Oct 29, 2009 10:39 pm |
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no way is eu any good, its a fraudulant organisation, it cannot get its accounts signed off, because its so corrupt. it is jst another thing put upon ordinary people who never needed it. I have never had the oppertunity to vote for or gainst this thing, we were told it was a free market agreement, what is it now a superstate interferring i sovereign countries
time to scrap it and think again
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will3141d
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Posted: Wed Nov 04, 2009 6:11 pm |
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Nah, It doesn't work well. Smaller countries like Finland etc. don't have enough power against Germany, France and other larger countries when making decisions.
Finland has to pay for EU, but it gets back less than it gives. That makes no sense. |
Which is pretty much the same situation as it would be for Norway, if we joined in on the "fun". |
Britain has the second largest economy and population and economy in the EU and even we feel that our interests are not being represented in the EU. We also pay out much more than we get back. But it is difficult to measure the actual economic benefit with raw figures. The benefit if the common market may generate more wealth for us than we pay directly to the EU. It's difficult to say. I would certainly admit that Britain has generally become more prosperous since joining the EU in 1973. However, that success may be due to British domestic policy or its membership of the common market or a combination of both of these. But, as I said, it's difficult to measure.
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Ghaban
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Posted: Thu Nov 19, 2009 3:31 pm |
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Off course it is good. Let´s not forget about the original sense!!! The 5 founder countries created the EU to prevent further wars between old enemies. It works for more than 60 years now!
Unlike the United States of America every european country still has it´s own government and can make independant descisions. 16 european States have the Euro money and hey, it´s a strong Euro!
Think big, a united europe is good for all members in some ways. |
Then what about the Lisbon treaty?
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Nah, It doesn't work well. Smaller countries like Finland etc. don't have enough power against Germany, France and other larger countries when making decisions.
Finland has to pay for EU, but it gets back less than it gives. That makes no sense. |
Indeed that is true, although Sweden has more votes per capita than for example Germany or France, and maybe it's the same for Finland? Sweden also pays a lot more then we get back, but mainly i think it's because most ppl don't really know that they can get money from the EU for different types of "exotic" farming etc.
There are a few good sides of the EU in my perspective, and that is the fact that i can go almost anywhere in Europe to live and work if i choose to. We, as europeans get a stronger political power in the world politics. And yeah, no more wars is kind of good too, although sweden hasn't really been in one for a long long time.
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Ghaban
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Posted: Thu Nov 19, 2009 5:14 pm |
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| and without having to change currency (except in England, the closest EU country! |
Only about 60% of the EU countries use the euro as their currency. So it's not only in england that you have to change currency. Example: Sweden.
Source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Euro
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