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 Lysholm
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Oh... Wait,,, it wasn't dinosaur farting that caused the extinction. Perhaps it was a global flood, the "mother of all mass extinctions".


Couldn't it simply have been a meteorite strike or erupting volcanoes? That would have made the climate much colder. In the 1970s some scientists suspected that fossil fuel burning could cause a similar phenomenon but there was never any consensus about it. Even in the 1970s most climate scientists believed that the climate would become warmer because of carbon dioxide emissions.

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 Lysholm
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There's an old Scottish waling song called Bonnie Ship the Diamond. Here's some rows from its lyrics:

Don't you weep, my bonnie wee lass
Though you be left behind
For the rose will grow on Greenland's ice
Before we change our mind


Scaringly this is about to happen!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tuoSuo-7wL0


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I am not an expert but the EPA people are.


No, they are not. They are appointed unaccountable bureaucrats whose sole purpose is to create more and more regulations to justify their continued employment.
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Lysholm wrote:
Even in the 1970s most climate scientists believed that the climate would become warmer because of carbon dioxide emissions.


You're getting your info from Wiki again - which has no editorial controls. In the 70s, the big fear was cooling. Below is an article that lists article, after article:

http://www.climatedepot.com/a/3213/Dont-Miss-it-Climate-Depots-Factsheet-on-1970s-Coming-Ice-Age-Claims
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FLZapped wrote:
You're getting your info from Wiki again - which has no editorial controls. In the 70s, the big fear was cooling. Below is an article that lists article, after article:


My source isn't wikipedia but this site: http://www.skepticalscience.com/ice-age-predictions-in-1970s.htm

There may have been a big fear of cooling in the 1970s but there were no scientific consensus behind it. Most of the scientific establishment at the time predicted a warming.

Here you can see that methane plays a minor part compared to carbon dioxide: http://www.skepticalscience.com/methane-and-global-warming.htm

Here's 10 possible solutions from Scientific American: http://www.scientificamerican.com/article.cfm?id=10-solutions-for-climate-change

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Lysholm wrote:
FLZapped wrote:
You're getting your info from Wiki again - which has no editorial controls. In the 70s, the big fear was cooling. Below is an article that lists article, after article:


My source isn't wikipedia but this site: http://www.skepticalscience.com/ice-age-predictions-in-1970s.htm

There may have been a big fear of cooling in the 1970s but there were no scientific consensus behind it. Most of the scientific establishment at the time predicted a warming.

Here you can see that methane plays a minor part compared to carbon dioxide: http://www.skepticalscience.com/methane-and-global-warming.htm

Here's 10 possible solutions from Scientific American: http://www.scientificamerican.com/article.cfm?id=10-solutions-for-climate-change


Yes, your source was wiki - you quoted parts of it verbatim. Yes, there was a BIG fear of cooling in the 70s. It should serve as a warning that we don't have very much knowledge at all when it comes to long term climate and much of the work being done today is for political gain. Carbon dioxide is also a minor player as well and it is just as foolish to think it is responsible now for the changes we are seeing.
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