wilnottel9 wrote:

justwannachat wrote: Mr Moderator (g.b.h) has something even more amazing to say: What does g.b.h. mean?

God bless him.

@Ayub

Yes brother.I agree with you on one thing now.Such false propoganda should be deleted.Again we agree on one thing that there is no scientist which has acknowledged science in quran and converted and didnt backtrack on his statements later.


Most converts dont even read the islamic scriptures properly.About half of them have a muslim bf(even online bf for that matter).

I would say 20% are indeed true converts who find islamic scriptures fascinating.


But i have just studied around 104 female converts to islam on interpals.I have tracked a few for years now.Some left islam,some are not religious and some are still going strong.

But it was more of a personal study.Idk if its representive but i can share more facts in a personal email if you want.

Here is a great YouTuber I found a while ago, http://www.youtube.com/user/TheRationalizer

He has, on his channel, a conversation between himself and a couple of scientists. These scientists were used in Saudi Arabia a while ago to talk about science and the Quran. The overall problem was that the scientists were asked questions, to steer them towards answers that, after some video editing, made it look like they were claiming the Quran as a divinely inspired book. The point, by Saudi Arabia, was that they wanted to get some independent non-Muslims who were educated to try and say the Quran is the true word of a god.
The scientists later talked about the misquoting that happened.
Muslims LOVE Keith Moore because he is the one scientist that did make those claims about the embryology in the Quran. However, he, like the Quran, is DEAD WRONG on embryology. The bones do NOT form first and then the flesh. Nor is it the other way around. They form simultaneously. The idea the Quran had was an idea brought forth by Aristotle and Galen (~500 B.C.). It was widely accepted at the time in both ancient Greece and the Middle East up until Muhammad's time.
But this is nothing new. Many of the scientific claims in the Quran are flat out wrong. They were known ideas at the time. Nothing revolutionary. But of course when you bring this up to Muslims, they argue that its either mistranslated or has some kind of double meaning.

Mr. Talkative, what is there exactly you wish to say with this topic?

@Catmania

I have proved that the propoganda on the internet has no basis and there is much more than what meets the eye.
Many muslims have acknowledged this

Islam is the fastest growing religion by number of converts, especially in west, with free will of people which's admitted by non-muslim and christian sources too. as expectedly, this's upsetting some non-muslims.

yes, converts include many and many scientists, professors, teachers etc. converting to this religion even if you like it or not.

keith or whatever, i havent heard about him/her before and i dont know about his personal views. 1 doesnt represent all converts to Islam after all.


American Scientist converts to Islam

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g2ZIgn1K7E4&feature=related


German scientist and his wife converted to Islam

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p-Fik8H4IOQ&feature=related


Top American Surgeon embraced Islam - "I was trying very hard to be a Christian"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_J5_VETwfew&feature=related


European Scientist converts to Islam

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0IspK651RpY&feature=related


Christian Professor converts to Islam

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R0SYAZhvNfo&feature=related


Dr.Maurice Bucaille (why i'm muslim)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1zs6z6E_Oik&feature=related


Dr. Maurice Bucaille's Book: " The Bible The Qur'an and Science "

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=crkq8HVvdm8&feature=related


American Science student convert to Islam

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5O3Y9pcvXqo&feature=related


Scientists amazed (1 of 2) by Quran's scientific facts

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wGbQvx4Ej_k&feature=related


Anatomy : Scientist converted to islam after reading Quran

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ngi1UkyloQ4


Why world Famous Scientists Converted to Islam ?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o3bLAmfz_rQ


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i cannot paste all links. say mashAllah for them

Mr-Talkative wrote:

Most converts dont even read the islamic scriptures properly.About half of them have a muslim bf(even online bf for that matter).

source?

Mr-Talkative wrote:

I would say 20% are indeed true converts who find islamic scriptures fascinating.

source?

Mr-Talkative wrote:

But i have just studied around 104 female converts to islam on interpals.I have tracked a few for years now.Some left islam,some are not religious and some are still going strong.

source?


oh, not to forget that you bother members of a friendship website with your religious depression can i ask how many profiles you use to conduct those ''studies'' ?

Catmania wrote:

Mr. Talkative, what is there exactly you wish to say with this topic?

if a muslim posted same things about another religion all the time (for example about judaism or christianity), his profile would be gone next day. we have witnessed it in past.

same goes with, if a muslim opens a topic about conversion stories of people into Islam with their reasons and their facts, his profile would be gone next day too.

@La turqa,

First of all,its my account,i can talk to my friends regarding anything...So you better keep ur nose out and i am not depressed man.i am very happy.

Secondly,Suprisingly most of your youtube videos didnt have the name of the scientist.Probably a poor guy sitting near the trash can say anything you want him to say for a bottle of beer..: )...

But yes,there were two names i got.

One of them was,Dr. Laurence B. Brown..Who prayed to god when his young girl was dying in the hospital.Studied religion and converted cause he felt the bible pointed out towards the last prophet (which is disputed),and he found the prophet to be Muhammed.Cool enough,After all its western society,you are free to do whatever you want..: ).But i dont see anything scientific that led him to islam.It was personal choice..

Then the second one was O’Leary,Another person who found peace with islam but nothing to do with science leading to her.Such women will exist in western society.Just like capitalists existed in communist Russia.The truth is that Islam and western ethics never come on a cross road.It is like the exact opposite.Somepeople in the western society would find islam interesting.They are free to think whatever they want...

Dude,but where is science in quran leading any of these people???


And you continue to mock these guys like keith moore and other scientists..They are the same one who are all over youtube mister....: )

@La turqa

No one in this world can tell which is the fastest growing religion.According to some estimates its Buddhism...Oshoism was such a cult that FBI had to hunt him down durin the 80s...

It can be Islam.

And Honestly,why do you even care if people are turning to islam.Is that parameter to strengthen your faith in islam??Islam is an faith that permits advertisement.Open an international daily and see paper flooded with Islam,right from afghan girls poisoning to what not..People come across Islam much more than any other religion.Many try to find out more,some convert,some dont.

You should honestly be more worried about falling mosque attendence in Iran n New form of atheism in war torn muslim country than posting videos of white 'christian' people converting to islam..

A nice article from your muslim brother...


http://indianmuslims.in/no-head-i-win-tail-you-lose-situation-for-muslims/

Mr-Talkative wrote:

@La turqa, First of all,its my account,i can talk to my friends regarding anything...So you better keep ur nose out and i am not depressed man.i am very happy.

so you mean you searched and made friendships with 104 female converts to Islam on interpals? it must be hard thing to do i call it definitely religious obsession and depression.

Mr-Talkative wrote:

Secondly,Suprisingly most of your youtube videos didnt have the name of the scientist.Probably a poor guy sitting near the trash can say anything you want him to say for a bottle of beer..: )...

or a poor guy is pretending to not to admit they're scientists?

it's result of 5 mins of search on web. when you dig, you can find details.

Mr-Talkative wrote:

One of them was,Dr. Laurence B. Brown..Who prayed to god when his young girl was dying in the hospital.Studied religion and converted cause he felt the bible pointed out towards the last prophet (which is disputed),and he found the prophet to be Muhammed.Cool enough,After all its western society,you are free to do whatever you want..: ).But i dont see anything scientific that led him to islam.It was personal choice..

as all conversion stories come as a result of personal choice.

Quran isnt a science book, nor chemistry or biology book. religious books are mainly based on faiths.

Mr-Talkative wrote:

Then the second one was O’Leary,Another person who found peace with islam but nothing to do with science leading to her.Such women will exist in western society.Just like capitalists existed in communist Russia.The truth is that Islam and western ethics never come on a cross road.It is like the exact opposite.Somepeople in the western society would find islam interesting.They are free to think whatever they want...

like i said above. what's your problem then?

Mr-Talkative wrote:

Dude,but where is science in quran leading any of these people???

entire content in Quran, including scientific materials.

Mr-Talkative wrote:

And you continue to mock these guys like keith moore and other scientists..They are the same one who are all over youtube mister....: )

i'm not mocking keith or whatever his name is. i havent searched about him even. i say 1 doesnt represent entire population of scientists who converted to Islam.

Mr-Talkative wrote:

@La turqa No one in this world can tell which is the fastest growing religion.According to some estimates its Buddhism...Oshoism was such a cult that FBI had to hunt him down durin the 80s... It can be Islam.

it's Islam according to many considerable christian sources, lets leave Islamic sources on the other side.

According to the Guinness Book of World Records, Islam is the world’s fastest-growing religion by number of conversions each year: Although the religion began in Arabia, by 2002 80% of all believers in Islam lived outside the Arab world. In the period 1990-2000, approximately 12.5 million more people converted to Islam than to Christianity

and: http://www.foreignpolicy.com/articles/2007/05/13/the_list_the_worlds_fastest_growing_religions

Mr-Talkative wrote:

And Honestly,why do you even care if people are turning to islam.Is that parameter to strengthen your faith in islam??Islam is an faith that permits advertisement.Open an international daily and see paper flooded with Islam,right from afghan girls poisoning to what not..People come across Islam much more than any other religion.Many try to find out more,some convert,some dont.

of course it makes me happy to see people are choosing this religion. why shouldnt i be happy? Islam is a religion of brothership and sistership, it's not an individual religion. it promotes sharing each other's feelings and life.

Mr-Talkative wrote:

A nice article from your muslim brother... http://indianmuslims.in/no-head-i-win-tail-you-lose-situation-for-muslims/

thanks, i'm not reading as you dont read things provided to you, weblinks, sources etc. you're blindly stuck to your agenda and it's not impressing.


as far as i know, fastest growing religion in india is Islam, right? while hinduism is decreasing over there. you need to waste a lot of effort to slander at Islam.